I want to publicly say thank you to Clare of A Maiden’s Wreath for highlighting Modestia on her wonderful blog.
I went over to A Maiden’s Wreath last night to post a “thank you” message, but was a little blindsided by a second post from Clare addressing the following comment from “Lucy”:
I’m all for modesty, and there isn’t enough said about it. Living in Las Vegas, you can’t imagine how women dress to church even. You would think they were out at a dance club. I was so happy to see that there was a blog on so called “modesty”, but was very disappointed when I went to the blog and saw that the poster’s picture actually has her cleavage in it! How modest is that!!!!!!!!!?????????????!!!!!!!!!! Is it just me or are all the other pictures of sleevless dresses and cleavage imodest. I guess they are modest for movie stars! But I ask you…. could you see Mary wearing any of those clothes. I couldn’t! And I’m sure that if she were living in our day and time, she would be wearing clothes that were stylish, that didn’t bow down to fashion trends and that were modest!!!!!!!!!
I want to know what you other Catholic women think.
This post isn’t about defending myself, as I have learned in life that when someone judges you without knowing you, there’s really nothing you can do to change their minds. But since I posted the official Modestia Manifesto last week, I would like to talk a bit more about the purpose of Modestia.
My response to Lucy’s comment on Clare’s post was the following:
Clare, thanks so much for the post about my site. You and your readers are welcome to come over any time!
In response to your commenter Lucy, some of us ladies, even the Catholic ones, have larger busts. I’ve made it a point to include apparel sites on Modestia for women like me to get dresses and tops that cater to this “situation.” LOL.
But honestly, I’m a little taken aback that anyone who may have had a problem with me or my site didn’t write to me, rather than try to shake their finger at me on another site.
There should be no judgement of any other woman’s dress, even women who one would deem “immodest.” Just recently it was “Bridal Week” on Modestia because many women find it very difficult to find modest bridal wear. I know a number of devout Catholic women, some who travel to Pure Fashion shows to talk about modesty, some who even design modest fashion lines, who wore strapless gowns to their weddings. Instead of condemning them as immodest, I tried to help other women preparing for such a joyous occasion by highlighting the best and the most fashion-forward lines of modest bridal wear.
One reason why I started Modestia was to reach out to a particular audience that is being ignored. That audience wasn’t necessarily homeschooled, or even brought up in the faith at birth. Some of this audience works in the entertainment industry, or is from an ethnic group that has felt ignored by Catholic blogs and other forms of new media.
I have been interviewed about this subject, and the point I always try to make is that as members of the Universal church, we should be pastoral to all people. Though one woman may not like everything I post or find it beneficial, another woman will. There are non-Catholic men and women who read both of my sites, and if I can present anyone with the beauty of the Church, than I have done what God has asked me to do.
PS: Dissenting opinions are always encouraged. If you, Lucy, or anyone else would like to write an article for Modestia, I will most certainly post it. Topics are limited to social justice, ecclesial matters, modesty, fashion, or something within the realm.
Being at a university in southern California, I meet a lot of different types of people, some gay, some fallen away Catholics, some atheists, etc. I’m sure many of you can echo my experience. Whenever someone asks me about my faith or why I do what I do (for example volunteering hours of my time to teach moody teenagers), I tell them I “do it” because I care. I’m not out to condemn anyone, or really even instruct anyone, but rather present the Church from my perspective, listen to others, and try to communicate the simple truth that God loves them, He always has, and He always will.
There’s a guy within my social circle that works as a film producer in West Hollywood. He’s a former seminarian with plenty of orthodox Catholic friends, but working in the film industry he also has many other non-Christian friends too. Every now and then he gets all of his friends together to teach them philosophy and lead short discussions afterward. They talk about everything from life issues to the existence of God.
One Catholic may look at that situation and say, “Why isn’t he preaching the faith to them?” Another Catholic, like me for example, looks at that situation and says a prayer of thanksgiving, because someone has reached out to a group of individuals who would never had encountered Christ otherwise.
As you may have noticed, there is no list of fashion rules on this site. Modestia is not about me preaching to you. But rather, I tried to build a site that I would enjoy—one that tackles important issues like feminism, but also one that appeals to the pop culture freak in me. I try to endorse women on this site who are role models. I try to talk about the unknown jewels of Catholic culture like Marie Miller and Ali Landry. I also try to talk about tough issues so that we can build up our minds for the glory of God.
If you want me to be preachy or define matters in black and white, than this isn’t the site for you. I’ve tried to cater to all women within the spectrum of the Church (notice the chapel veil category.) From the responses I’ve gotten both here and in my private inbox, most women have found Modestia to be beneficial to their personal spiritual walk.
I guess at the end of this rather long post (sorry!), my response to Lucy and to anyone else that may find this site questionable, let’s not grumble or condemn each other, let’s have a conversation.
Pax Christi, Rebecca.